ORE Is a fixer upper

[DrDaBomb]

We all know ORE is in trouble for a number of reasons
1. Inactive staff
2. Unhelpful staff
3. Not enough plots
4. Technical issues
5. And ALOT more

But instead of yelling at Tyler like little kids, lets not waste our time and start FIXING ORE instead of bashing it! We all came to ORE as a place to have fun and build redstone together. It's turning into a place where all we do is get in arguments and fight. ORE isn't really fun anymore. But, I love the server. We have a great (player) community, and we need to start adressing these problems like mature people and not 4 year olds who all they want to do is complain! Lets think of some solutions for the problems above

1. Track players playing time with a plugin and have a set playing ratio you must have to become staff.
2. Have trial staff, the players can vote on a pole to support or not support a trail staff person.
3. BUILD MORE! A simple answer for a problem Tyler gets bashed about to much
4. Have IT staff on the server who can connect to the host computer (via teamviewer) and find out what's going on
5. Come on people, find answers for these other problems!

[PhysoniumI]

teamviewer = shit. SSH master race.

*a lot

unhelpfull/inactive staff can only be solved by more staff.

Hasn't this exact thread been made a million times before (by PNW)?

[Legofreak]

I've never really had problems with anybody on the server. As far as I can tell ORE is not broken. It's up to the users how they want to perceive its "brokenness" and how they want to deal with drama.

I do understand there are a lot of disagreements though. One thing I find annoying is the amount people argue about dictionary definitions. When somebody calls their creation as a real world device name, there seems to always be somebody to step in and say why it is not.

BTW, if you haven't noticed, there's a staff election in the announcements section.

[Iceglade]

Holy crap we don't have enough of these threads already. I've said this before; I'll say it again:

ORE IS NOT BROKEN

As Phys said, PNW has made this exact thread (just fancier, more colorful, and perhaps more in depth). Certain people have recently been repeatedly posting in school discussion on "issues" such as students asking for WE. What a goddamn atrocity it is to not want to stack your 4-bit adder by hand. etc, etc. I, for some reason, feel the need to address your "issues", one by one.

1. We're currently having a staff election.
2. We're currently having a staff election.
3. This one I agree with. We need more plots, but by the sound of it that's coming along as we speak.
4. We're currently having a staff election.
5. I know, all the other problems... like those threads in the discussion forums spammed over and over and talking about how ORE is dead and we can bring it to it's FORMER DAYS OF GLORY!

Summary: Fixing things that aren't broken is breaking them. ORE isn't broken. Hence, this "fixing" ORE movement? trend? no idea, is breaking it. Without these threads, we'd be doing better, not worse.

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P.S. I'm really, truly sorry for the anger in this post. I've seen this thread so many times already and heard the exact same discussion so many times that it really bores me after a while, but I do appreciate your effort despite that I feel like it's in the wrong direction.

If any admins want to make this post "nicer" or even delete it, go ahead. But this is how I feel about these threads, and I do apologize.

[Chibill]

This is stupid......?

[Xray_Doc]

like those threads in the discussion forums spammed over and over and talking about how ORE is dead and we can bring it to it's FORMER DAYS OF GLORY!

There never were days of glory, here or on the RDF.

Edit: I actually feel the need to put this because I know some people will piss their pants if I don't. Yes that was sarcasm.

[jxu]

seems pretty broken to me

[Magic :^)]

I'm pretty new to ORE and I don't see any problems at all. It's got an amazing community from my perspective

also Staff Election.

[Nickster258]

We all know ORE is in trouble for a number of reasons
1. Inactive staff
2. Unhelpful staff
3. Not enough plots
4. Technical issues
5. And ALOT more

But instead of yelling at Tyler like little kids, lets not waste our time and start FIXING ORE instead of bashing it! We all came to ORE as a place to have fun and build redstone together. It's turning into a place where all we do is get in arguments and fight. ORE isn't really fun anymore. But, I love the server. We have a great (player) community, and we need to start adressing these problems like mature people and not 4 year olds who all they want to do is complain! Lets think of some solutions for the problems above

1. Track players playing time with a plugin and have a set playing ratio you must have to become staff.
2. Have trial staff, the players can vote on a pole to support or not support a trail staff person.
3. BUILD MORE! A simple answer for a problem Tyler gets bashed about to much
4. Have IT staff on the server who can connect to the host computer (via teamviewer) and find out what's going on
5. Come on people, find answers for these other problems!

No offense, but this is one of the worst 'revive X' solutions I have ever seen...

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Also, to add, someone who has been around for just over a month has really no clue exactly how this system works.

~ 2 Year veteran

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I've never really had problems with anybody on the server. As far as I can tell ORE is not broken. It's up to the users how they want to perceive its "brokenness" and how they want to deal with drama.

I do understand there are a lot of disagreements though. One thing I find annoying is the amount people argue about dictionary definitions. When somebody calls their creation as a real world device name, there seems to always be somebody to step in and say why it is not.

BTW, if you haven't noticed, there's a staff election in the announcements section.

Rekcir, everybody likes you

[Legofreak]

I've never really had problems with anybody on the server. As far as I can tell ORE is not broken. It's up to the users how they want to perceive its "brokenness" and how they want to deal with drama.

I do understand there are a lot of disagreements though. One thing I find annoying is the amount people argue about dictionary definitions. When somebody calls their creation as a real world device name, there seems to always be somebody to step in and say why it is not.

BTW, if you haven't noticed, there's a staff election in the announcements section.

Rekcir, everybody likes you

[tokumei]

Just for the record, we do not use teamviewer. Our servers all run on Linux distributions (mostly without GUI) and those who have SSH access have enough skill in sh-based terminals (hopefully) to manage the servers themselves. I can think of at least 4 staff off the top of my head (not including me) who are adept at Linux server administration.

[PhysoniumI]

Well besides initial setup, linux server administration is pretty basic SSH is awesome but teamviewer is a laggy piece of shit. (I had to once use it on a server, teh horror.)

You're insane Dr

[Chibill]

I run my servers from MineOS and SSH....

[PhysoniumI]

But, mineOS happens to be rather limited in other utilities it can run (to the best of my knowledge)

[Chibill]

Thru ssh I can install any plugin. So no.

[Apuly]

I think phys is talking about not minecraft related stuff.
But because mineOS is an OS specificity created for minecraft servers, it's not really a problem.

[PhysoniumI]

(you're wasting a server if you're only using it for minecraft)

Also, does mineOS have python support? If not, half of ORE wouldn't work

/derail

[tyler569]

According to their site, mineOS is less an operating system and more an application a collection of scripts that can be installed used on several OSs. They also ship a full OS package with their software preinstalled based on Debian.

Either way, there's nothing Linux can do that mineOS can't (unless you install it on FreeBSD which it seems they support)

EDIT: sause

[PhysoniumI]

Ah interesting. So it's not an OS and it's completly a mispackaged lie to hook people in and think it's good? Seems legit.

So this thread isn't about how ORE is bad, it's now about how mineOS is a 100% waste of time? (more shit as opposed to less)

Edit: I like sauce ^^
For some reason i wanted to use the word misogynistic but sadly it doesn't fit

[tyler569]

uhh

I'm not sure convenience scripts count as "a 100% waste of time"

I like convenience.