Spawn Rebuild - What do you want?

[shrogg]

Alright, So I feel like its time that we updated spawn, Made it better for people to really see what ORE is all about.

Lately we have been getting a lot of visitors and most of them have no idea about anything that is going on. Namely, They have no idea we are actually serious about being a redstone server.

First of all, lets talk about our current spawn.

Now the guys who built it did a great job. It looks fantastic and serves a pourpace as a spawn point for everyone.
What it does not do, however. Is make people interested. It does not capture peoples attention. There is no.. Substance. Nothing off in the distance that people will want to fly to. There is nothing telling the player that this is THE redstone server.

We dont want to force the player to teleport to someone to see something awesome, They should discover something, and be amazed by it. This initial spark of curiosity will most likely leave people in awe at the possibilitys of redstone. We may see people who initially came here to look around, but stayed for they were now really interested in redstone.

So you see. there is much to be done.

Lets make spawn something interesting.
Something that really shows that we are all about redstone.
Something that will.. Blow. Peoples. Minds.


So guys. I need suggestions as to what will be around spawn. Will it be a super cool CPU that runs a program when a visitor pushes a button?

I have my own ideas that i will change to suit your suggestions (if they are good, that is) but i want to hear from you guys too!

And also, Serious suggestions only, please, no pixel art or doors.


I will be sketching out a map of the proposed spawn in the coming hours/days depending on my work load.

Cheers - Shrogg

[EDevil]

How about just a big ass screen with some simple rom behind it. Program some fancy words / sentences into it, and when a player pushes a button, the signal scrolls through the lines of rom.

Advantages

• Simple
  
• No calculation involved
  
• New players will be overwhelmed
  

Disadvantages

• Huge. Especially with, for example, 64 lines behind it
  
• The posibility of endless lag
  

[shrogg]

Yeah, Thats a cool idea. We could make it far more advanced than the usual display though, because rom/screen combo is boring to us.

I Was thinking of doing something along the lines of this

We have 4 Sectors, Each sector is dedicated to something.

1. Spawn District
   
2. Members District
   
3. Games District
   
4. Computing District
   

Spawn District

Code:

Contains the Spawn point, With rules and a few guides on how to get around the map.

Members District

Code:

This is a place where members can feature their complete builds. It will be cool to put more of a focus on what our members create, and encourage people to show off their awesome builds.

Games District

Code:

We often see people socalising and playing silly games, So why not do that in its own centralised place?

We could have redstone games like Tic-Tac-Toe, Connect 4, A Rubix Cube, Lights out, And also have things like Minigolf (throwing slime balls on ice)  and spleef.

Computing District

Code:

The biggest and most awesome District of them all. The computing District will contain computers that look nice, have neat access ways and buttons that anyone can push to run 1 line of a program at a time (to save lag)

The computing district will also have things like legacy computers, advanced logic thingymawhats and neat little gizmos.

We could also dress it up to look awesome, have nice neat pathways and embedded parkour

Fun for the whole family!

Also, the spawn area is Massive

[Iceglade]

I support this idea. New members could spawn in some kind of central square. HOWEVER, I think that it's important not to immediately fill their heads with all that stuff the moment they log on... I don't know we could fix that, although parkour, minigolf stuff would make the whole idea a bit tamer.

A second thought I just had is that the devices showcased would have to be very robust. (4 tick repeaters on the inputs?) Just because, since obviously new members will have button-pressing perms there, we don't want the machines glitched out.

[EDevil]

+1 To the Sector plan! Not only will it be a place where new players immediately understand what this server is all about, but it also will, like mentioned above, encourage members on the server to show of their builds. Not entirely sure if the game concept is going to work out though. I like it, but certain redstone created games tend to get really big. Of course, if the general spawn area will be huge, this is no big deal

[David]

How about when new players join, we have a plugin getting their name and displaying it on a big ass screen.

[Iceglade]

How about when new players join, we have a plugin getting their name and displaying it on a big ass screen.

That, my friend, would be amazing. But considering how long usernames would be, we'd need a really weird plugin to translate each letter to a byte in redstone somehow, and then decode them all seperately...

Maybe you were joking, but that is what we'd need to do.

[mort96]

It is possible to modify the world using plugins - take /pclaim and /punclaim, those work by placing/removing redstone blocks under the lamps. It should be possible...

[shrogg]

Hah, that would be awesome!

[Iceglade]

True... but it would be just so much repetitive bussing, unless the plugin did more for us than I thought we were aiming for... although if there's a decent way, I'm totally in.

[David]

It is possible to modify the world using plugins - take /pclaim and /punclaim, those work by placing/removing redstone blocks under the lamps. It should be possible...

It was meant as a joke, though it would be (Thinking of a 'clean' word here) ******* awesome.

[Xeomorpher]

Hmmmm... RED I NEED YOUR CODING!

[EDevil]

XD This idea is actually going to be implemented And if the plot plugin "only" places redstone blocks behind the lamps, you can do the same with a big screen and someone's name.

[Iceglade]

Wait a second... we COULD not even do binary encoding and actually translate the letters directly onto the screen with redstone blocks!

Genius, evil.

[David]

Wait a second... we COULD not even do binary encoding and actually translate the letters directly onto the screen with redstone blocks!

Genius, evil.

I don't really understand what you are saying...

But yeah, evil is a genius

[EDevil]

<3 (Why min. of 5 letters?)

[redstonewarrior]

Hmmmm... RED I NEED YOUR CODING!

* redstonewarrior puts on his hat
* redstonewarrior likes his hat
Easily possible. We'll have an PlayerLoginEvent listener, which then grabs the name of the joined player. It then sets a global variable (lastPlayer) to the name, and calls a function to set a few redstone blocks to the corresponding ASCII values. (No direct modifications of the screen, that's cheating! We've gotta use redstone!)
:3

[Iceglade]

Yeeeah. Totally helping with the redstone

[redstonewarrior]

It might prove relevant to the point!
* redstonewarrior wiggles his arms

[David]

Yeeeah. Totally helping with the redstone

[shrogg]

Ok, so you guys seem to know what.. 1 part of the spawn will be, But what about the rest of it.

We still need to work out heaps of things. Including.

• Whose CPU will we use For the Computing Section
  
• Any Buildings?
  
• Who will help make some of the games.
  
• Who will help me with the creative side of things
  
• We need People to put in ideas for things to go in each section
  

The people who will help me with the creative building of the landscape Must be able to follow my guides and build something that looks good. We don't want engineer art here. (I know what some of you are like ;D)

[Iceglade]

I think I could probably help with some of the buildings, etc. I've been playing around with fun stair/slab/all that good stuff, and that would be a good step towards the building in my new upcoming Let's Play. (I'm good at building, but terraforming is a big no )

[Chibill]

I can help with maybe a wall of founders of ORE with there heads and admin maybe too.

[redstonewarrior]

I can help with maybe a wall of founders of ORE with there heads and admin maybe too.

A hall of heads would be nice, but let's not just focus on staff. Perhaps we can build a massive subterranian area, with wool heads on pedestals for any person who wants. I'd guess shrogg might not approve.
ORE was founded without the founder rank- a staff member is a staff member, regardless of history. :3

[shrogg]

I like to think of us admins/foremen as ordinary members.

Idolising people like us is pointless. We are here to keep the community together and sort out issues people have.

Members > Admins

[David]

I'd like to help with the games,

I'm only good in medieval buildings, and that is not what we want for a redstone server, so don't put me in the creative section

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Members > Admins

Hold on shrogg!
Members = Admins

[Xeomorpher]

Don't worry, Xeo > All

[David]

Don't worry, Xeo > All

Xeo > All - David
David > Xeo

muhahahahahhahaha

[David]

Ive already built a tic tac toe game, I just need to impliment win detection, which shoul be really easy.
Would you guys think it is OK to copy/paste it to the new spawn? Ill make a vid when it is ready.
I thinks it is pretty swet so far

[WrytXander]

Yay I support this!! It is really frustrating for the new guys, asking like, "How can I start building". It sometimes gets hard for us aswell. So what I suggest is making a very very minimalistic, modern and easy to navigate spawn. The 4 district is nice way to put it out. We coulds have example projects at distance for people to come and check it out. (We could have volunteers to submit their creations to the spawn, the "not-so-big ones)

And the blowing their minds part.. Hmm.. I am not sure if the projects far away, would blow their minds. So why not gon with a design (that modern simplistic clean minimalist one) and combine it with redstone shanigans ( in a beautiful way!) so that it would still keep the theme, and still look beatiful and elegant!

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I can help with maybe a wall of founders of ORE with there heads and admin maybe too.

A hall of heads would be nice, but let's not just focus on staff. Perhaps we can build a massive subterranian area, with wool heads on pedestals for any person who wants. I'd guess shrogg might not approve.
ORE was founded without the founder rank- a staff member is a staff member, regardless of history. :3

Wow I really love the sounds of that!!!!! Please make that work reddie :D sounds awesome IMO :33

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And not trying to brag or something, but I can say that I am pretty good at modern buildings .:)
We used to discuss modern architecture with my architect mom :333333

[shadekiller666]

only issue i foresee with something that has to be activated by new visitors is that they can't push buttons...

[Xeomorpher]

I can make a plugin to take over the role of anti button pressing.

[Iceglade]

Again, putting 4-tick repeaters on all lever-based inputs is probably a good idea to prevent spamming.

[JeremyG]

and embedded parkour

You can leave that parkour over to me, if we do this :3

[CMOSprinkles]

Since Shrogg mentioned using someone's CPU as a display, I would suggest using Benny's since he has a whole YouTube series on it that a lot of people have seen.

[newomaster]

Since Shrogg mentioned using someone's CPU as a display, I would suggest using Benny's since he has a whole YouTube series on it that a lot of people have seen.

I really hope you don't mean his old one that he made a long time ago in his first tutorial ._.

[David]

Since Shrogg mentioned using someone's CPU as a display, I would suggest using Benny's since he has a whole YouTube series on it that a lot of people have seen.

I really hope you don't mean his old one that he made a long time ago in his first tutorial ._.

I think he means of the advanced computer tutorial.

[Iceglade]

But the advanced tutorial is only half finished D:

[Billman555555]

Wow i have not been on in a while but think this is an exelent idea.
I could whip somthing up in java to do the name on screen idea.
If you need help i am free anytime.

[mort96]

Java? We've got our Python.

[redstonewarrior]

Our python eats java for breakfast.
This would take seconds to write in python, do not fear. :3

[Billman555555]

I need to learn python.

Java vs Python:

Java: No loader needed, made for plugins.

Python: Faster to write.

[Xeomorpher]

Java _really_ isn't made for plugins xD

[Billman555555]

But the Bukkit API (Java) is made for plugins, hence Java is plugin friendly.
:x :3

[Xeomorpher]

the API will work the same inpython, exactly..

[David]

But the Bukkit API (Java) is made for plugins, hence Java is plugin friendly.
:x :3

But we've got a java plugin allowing to have python plugins. So, python ftw!