09-20-2014, 10:09 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-20-2014, 10:55 AM by PhysoniumI.)
Problem with sponge.
Based on Forge. LexManos is currently the only FML (Forge) AND MCP dev. Therefore, everything gets updated in the following order:
MCP -> FML -> Sponge
Sponge must wait for a stable version of both MCP AND FML before it may be worked on for that version.
Bukkit? It could start dev BEFORE we even got our hands on the full release of that version.
This means? We have to wait a lot longer for our updates. Relying on other people to publish their shit is bad.
Even with the proposed dev "team" (I haven't seen ANYTHING ANYWHERE about some of those people jumping on the bandwagon) I'm not sure the point of this. If this is going to be spout2.0 no one will really like it
Spout epically failed with it's requirements and unless you can connect with a 100% vanilla client, there will be much bitching.
inb4 server checksums
Another thingy here similar to sponge/spigot/bukkit/shitspout.
https://github.com/TridentSDK/Trident
Mega shitfuckderpfacelist of 45 odd bukkit alternatives that were deved semi-recently.
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/over-45-...ves.29046/
Yeah, this is what I do at 3:30AM.
Also from what I've heard by poking around, Sponge has been wildly merging shitty code (I haven't dug through the source, nor do I have enough Java knowledge to easily differentiate).
All on good report, that is.
Also another reason I dislike sponge.
Forge is an API.
Sponge is an API.
Forge is based off of minecraft code. (obfuscated)
Therefore, it's an api over an api over obfuscated code. Not fun, not efficient.
Massive slowdown over a reimplementation in a proper language. May take more dedication but hell, it'd work better and be possible to further optimize (via threading, etc).
Also, spigot is being maintained by bytecode patches, not your arbitrary shit you were spouting earlier.
Source and checksums are probably available to make sure no asshattery is going on
Yeah, sorry for the post structure, i'm lazy and the readers can read.
Feel free to ask questions on the above shit so I can clarify.
Based on Forge. LexManos is currently the only FML (Forge) AND MCP dev. Therefore, everything gets updated in the following order:
MCP -> FML -> Sponge
Sponge must wait for a stable version of both MCP AND FML before it may be worked on for that version.
Bukkit? It could start dev BEFORE we even got our hands on the full release of that version.
This means? We have to wait a lot longer for our updates. Relying on other people to publish their shit is bad.
Even with the proposed dev "team" (I haven't seen ANYTHING ANYWHERE about some of those people jumping on the bandwagon) I'm not sure the point of this. If this is going to be spout2.0 no one will really like it
Spout epically failed with it's requirements and unless you can connect with a 100% vanilla client, there will be much bitching.inb4 server checksums
Another thingy here similar to sponge/spigot/bukkit/shitspout.
https://github.com/TridentSDK/Trident
Mega shitfuckderpfacelist of 45 odd bukkit alternatives that were deved semi-recently.
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/over-45-...ves.29046/
Yeah, this is what I do at 3:30AM.
Also from what I've heard by poking around, Sponge has been wildly merging shitty code (I haven't dug through the source, nor do I have enough Java knowledge to easily differentiate).
All on good report, that is.
Also another reason I dislike sponge.
Forge is an API.
Sponge is an API.
Forge is based off of minecraft code. (obfuscated)
Therefore, it's an api over an api over obfuscated code. Not fun, not efficient.
Massive slowdown over a reimplementation in a proper language. May take more dedication but hell, it'd work better and be possible to further optimize (via threading, etc).
Also, spigot is being maintained by bytecode patches, not your arbitrary shit you were spouting earlier.
Source and checksums are probably available to make sure no asshattery is going on
Yeah, sorry for the post structure, i'm lazy and the readers can read.
Feel free to ask questions on the above shit so I can clarify.