10-31-2014, 02:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-31-2014, 02:09 PM by AltruismAndCake.)
BTW has anyone ever read Karl Marx's paper? I can't find a copy of it. If we are attacking him, we should at the very least see what he said, instead of basing attacks on stuff passed through somebody who knows somebody that reads Wikipedia, which gets their sources from who knows where xD
GG - I agree Republic>Democracy. Did you know some communist countries call themselves a Democratic Republic? It's bologna to me because none of the communist countries are Democratic or Republic.
If I understand correctly, Marx says that capitalisms are all headed to communism and that communism can only be obtained via a capitalism that has freedoms in politics and religion, he's not saying you should revolt to speed up the proccess. What he is saying, is that the working class will get fed up, choose someone (peacefully) that WILL work in their interests (liberals <- lol we hate their politics, including me). After the working class is equal with the class providing the work and all resistance is given up, the government will fade into insignificance. Once the government is insignificant THEN and ONLY THEN will communism be achieved. He's saying it's a proccess that happens, not something that is create through war.
Of course this is all idealism to me and I don't agree with all of it, but since when was it decided that capitalism is the best thing ever? People say there are no alternatives, the rest is worse, but capitalism IS a broken system, so why can't something better be made? Republic capitalism provides freedom, is that because of or in spite of capitalism?
TSO - no NSA reference? I set it up for you and you failed to make a joke xD
GG - I agree Republic>Democracy. Did you know some communist countries call themselves a Democratic Republic? It's bologna to me because none of the communist countries are Democratic or Republic.
If I understand correctly, Marx says that capitalisms are all headed to communism and that communism can only be obtained via a capitalism that has freedoms in politics and religion, he's not saying you should revolt to speed up the proccess. What he is saying, is that the working class will get fed up, choose someone (peacefully) that WILL work in their interests (liberals <- lol we hate their politics, including me). After the working class is equal with the class providing the work and all resistance is given up, the government will fade into insignificance. Once the government is insignificant THEN and ONLY THEN will communism be achieved. He's saying it's a proccess that happens, not something that is create through war.
Of course this is all idealism to me and I don't agree with all of it, but since when was it decided that capitalism is the best thing ever? People say there are no alternatives, the rest is worse, but capitalism IS a broken system, so why can't something better be made? Republic capitalism provides freedom, is that because of or in spite of capitalism?
TSO - no NSA reference? I set it up for you and you failed to make a joke xD