11-03-2014, 05:25 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2014, 05:27 AM by AltruismAndCake.)
If these were people that actually tried to fix things that were unjust to women in society or try to help women in the developing world, I'd be supporting them.
I use the term feminism as "the advocacy of women's rights that are equal to men's on all applicable issues". I suppose I forgot that there exist people between feminist and misandrists (why isn't that spelled right?) that go beyond fair rights for women but they don't quite hate men.
I also do not agree with you that feminists == good. If these were people that actually tried to fix things that were unjust to women in society or try to help women in the developing world, I'd be supporting them.
By my definition feminist == good but you do make a point... stupid feminists == stupid to the point of doing more harm than good for your cause.
these "feminists" are control freaks that don't know how the media works.
The problem is the media IS rigged against GG even IRL. All it takes is to read the wrong article and you'll end up on the anti-GG side of the issue. The problem is that you can't make an argument against the unethical behavior in media without at least mentioning Zoey. And if you mention Zoey, then they'll start reading her posts. Zoey seems to have 0 problem with calling GG a hate group, and refuses to let anyone be neutral on the issue. And honestly... the whole GG incident would probably go away if she stopped speaking. GG would complain about the ethics, anti-GG would complaint about the trolls in GG but the complaints would slowly drift away as the main antagonists are gone and there would be no one saying the middle is for cowards.
I got side tracked there, main point: unless the trolls on your side are dealt with, people will continue to believe what they want to believe.
The Plan for Defeating the Troll Threat (Half joking, half serious)
Basic plan is to pull off a online white knight, except instead of rescuing the maidens in distress in return for sexual favors, we use it as an opportunity to preach the message of our Lord and Savior, Gamergate, and hit's ethics in journalism ways. And not random maidens, the ones that are targeted by the GG trolls. But that's just my opinion.
While I'm talking about fantasy worlds, there was a moment when Phy was anti-GG that I thought of joining him, but he swapped sides. If he didn't I would have said that while he's a capitalist and I'm a communist, we could have held hands and sang the words "Building a better tomorrow together". We would have invented lyrics along the way, until this thread way derailed and closed. But that didn't happen. Oh well, it's probably better that way.
BTW I'm not communist but don't tell jxu or whatshisname that. I still want to antagonize them and make them think.
Oh if you want the last say in the conversation, just don't say my name in your next post. Since I voted neutral it's probably better that someone else has the final post.
I use the term feminism as "the advocacy of women's rights that are equal to men's on all applicable issues". I suppose I forgot that there exist people between feminist and misandrists (why isn't that spelled right?) that go beyond fair rights for women but they don't quite hate men.
I also do not agree with you that feminists == good. If these were people that actually tried to fix things that were unjust to women in society or try to help women in the developing world, I'd be supporting them.
By my definition feminist == good but you do make a point... stupid feminists == stupid to the point of doing more harm than good for your cause.
these "feminists" are control freaks that don't know how the media works.
The problem is the media IS rigged against GG even IRL. All it takes is to read the wrong article and you'll end up on the anti-GG side of the issue. The problem is that you can't make an argument against the unethical behavior in media without at least mentioning Zoey. And if you mention Zoey, then they'll start reading her posts. Zoey seems to have 0 problem with calling GG a hate group, and refuses to let anyone be neutral on the issue. And honestly... the whole GG incident would probably go away if she stopped speaking. GG would complain about the ethics, anti-GG would complaint about the trolls in GG but the complaints would slowly drift away as the main antagonists are gone and there would be no one saying the middle is for cowards.
I got side tracked there, main point: unless the trolls on your side are dealt with, people will continue to believe what they want to believe.
The Plan for Defeating the Troll Threat (Half joking, half serious)
Basic plan is to pull off a online white knight, except instead of rescuing the maidens in distress in return for sexual favors, we use it as an opportunity to preach the message of our Lord and Savior, Gamergate, and hit's ethics in journalism ways. And not random maidens, the ones that are targeted by the GG trolls. But that's just my opinion.
While I'm talking about fantasy worlds, there was a moment when Phy was anti-GG that I thought of joining him, but he swapped sides. If he didn't I would have said that while he's a capitalist and I'm a communist, we could have held hands and sang the words "Building a better tomorrow together". We would have invented lyrics along the way, until this thread way derailed and closed. But that didn't happen. Oh well, it's probably better that way.
BTW I'm not communist but don't tell jxu or whatshisname that. I still want to antagonize them and make them think.
Oh if you want the last say in the conversation, just don't say my name in your next post. Since I voted neutral it's probably better that someone else has the final post.