11-02-2014, 05:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2014, 05:08 PM by AltruismAndCake.)
Xray - We always were annoyed with the journalists and felt something was wrong
We as in gamers or gamergate?
what happened with Zoe just pushed it off the edge. People realized competing journalists were actually working together to produce content that a certain group wanted.
Did anything happen between these two sentences? Because you said they are catering to a group, when, in fact, bribery was going on (if that). This is a concern, yes, and yes, they collaborated on the "gamers are dead" articles commiting two wrongs: collaborating and condemning. BUT what happened between "The Zoey Post" and media's "proof" that "gamers are dead"? Answer me honestly, did ANYONE use #gamergate between that period? "The Zoey Post" did NOT prove collusion, it proved individual accounts corruption (yes it makes a difference).
My sentiment is that we should be using a different hashtag. The word gamergate as Phy himself said is inherently deceiving.
Origins matter, if it originated as a hate group, we shouldn't be standing behind their flag
When and why has the world become so polarized? GG verse anti-GG, republican verse democrat, communism verses capitalism, and so on. It seems like we are saying, "I am right and everyone who opposes me is wrong or ignorant on the true issue at hand". The facts are that both sides can have valid points. Don't you know that your not helping the issue by saying they don't know what GG is when you don't fully understand either? (ok maybe that's an assumption)
Generally my point is: stopping voting for the lesser of two evils, vote for the third guy.
Here is a list of "pro-gamergate" review sites; it's in quotes because they were smart enough to just stick to game reviews and not worry about the politics around them:
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/c...onalities/
Oh and one more thing, there is no official Gamergate leader or Twitter, whoever made that account was probably fishing for attention
I know that now, but the link still stands: #gamergate started directly because of Zoey
I just read what you wrote Aft. Why should game review sites cover her actions? It's supposed to be a game review site not a gossip magazine
Which, ironically, is what they became anyways
We as in gamers or gamergate?
what happened with Zoe just pushed it off the edge. People realized competing journalists were actually working together to produce content that a certain group wanted.
Did anything happen between these two sentences? Because you said they are catering to a group, when, in fact, bribery was going on (if that). This is a concern, yes, and yes, they collaborated on the "gamers are dead" articles commiting two wrongs: collaborating and condemning. BUT what happened between "The Zoey Post" and media's "proof" that "gamers are dead"? Answer me honestly, did ANYONE use #gamergate between that period? "The Zoey Post" did NOT prove collusion, it proved individual accounts corruption (yes it makes a difference).
My sentiment is that we should be using a different hashtag. The word gamergate as Phy himself said is inherently deceiving.
Origins matter, if it originated as a hate group, we shouldn't be standing behind their flag
When and why has the world become so polarized? GG verse anti-GG, republican verse democrat, communism verses capitalism, and so on. It seems like we are saying, "I am right and everyone who opposes me is wrong or ignorant on the true issue at hand". The facts are that both sides can have valid points. Don't you know that your not helping the issue by saying they don't know what GG is when you don't fully understand either? (ok maybe that's an assumption)
Generally my point is: stopping voting for the lesser of two evils, vote for the third guy.
Here is a list of "pro-gamergate" review sites; it's in quotes because they were smart enough to just stick to game reviews and not worry about the politics around them:
http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/c...onalities/
Oh and one more thing, there is no official Gamergate leader or Twitter, whoever made that account was probably fishing for attention
I know that now, but the link still stands: #gamergate started directly because of Zoey
I just read what you wrote Aft. Why should game review sites cover her actions? It's supposed to be a game review site not a gossip magazine
Which, ironically, is what they became anyways