07-24-2014, 08:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-24-2014, 08:53 AM by newomaster.)
We have absolutely no control over weather students decide to try teaching each other or not. It is not technically the responsibility of ORE to stop student-to-student interchange of knowledge. We (ORE staff/teachers) cannot prevent a student from passing false or confusing information if they choose to do so (besides halt it if we see it within our premises, when we are able to). The students could just as easily hop onto another server and proceed.
Generally speaking, it is conclusive enough to say that anyone with the rank [Student] cannot be expected/trusted to know the material well enough to teach. It is therefore the responsibility of the student to ensure they get a good education by seeking out a proper instructor.
That being said, it IS the responsibility of ORE to provide such qualified instructors consistently. Teachers must know the material they are teaching (swallow your pride. If you don't know something, say so), and be readily available. We can only hope that by improving the system we use to teach we can also improve the student-to-student knowledge interchange.
Notice I didn't say remove. I think this interchange is important because students need to work together to strengthen their knowledge, through collaborative projects and discussion of the material. Teaching things to others is a great way to solidify your own knowledge (in fact, I highly recommend trying to explain your device to someone else if you're stuck, it works wonders sometimes).
What we don't want to do is give a student a false sense of accomplishment (for example, teach them to memorize an adder, but not how it works), which they then use to teach others for bragging rights. What we need to do is teach the students to understand the material well enough that they are able to (at least somewhat) effectively teach others if they choose to do so, which reduces this problem.
The other solution is to simply discourage students teaching other students. This can be done simply by stopping it on the server when we see it (correcting it is even better), and adding signs, etc. We should NOT make this a rule though (as I said above, student-to-student teaching CAN be good). Something like "Disclaimer: People with the [Student] rank are STUDENTS, not teachers. They do NOT necessarily know what they are doing. Learn from other students at your own risk."
I feel like a rework of the teacher system is in order. (It's a bit late for me right now, but I may refine some ideas from this thread into a nice list tomorrow).
tl;dr: We teach well, they teach well.
Generally speaking, it is conclusive enough to say that anyone with the rank [Student] cannot be expected/trusted to know the material well enough to teach. It is therefore the responsibility of the student to ensure they get a good education by seeking out a proper instructor.
That being said, it IS the responsibility of ORE to provide such qualified instructors consistently. Teachers must know the material they are teaching (swallow your pride. If you don't know something, say so), and be readily available. We can only hope that by improving the system we use to teach we can also improve the student-to-student knowledge interchange.
Notice I didn't say remove. I think this interchange is important because students need to work together to strengthen their knowledge, through collaborative projects and discussion of the material. Teaching things to others is a great way to solidify your own knowledge (in fact, I highly recommend trying to explain your device to someone else if you're stuck, it works wonders sometimes).
What we don't want to do is give a student a false sense of accomplishment (for example, teach them to memorize an adder, but not how it works), which they then use to teach others for bragging rights. What we need to do is teach the students to understand the material well enough that they are able to (at least somewhat) effectively teach others if they choose to do so, which reduces this problem.
The other solution is to simply discourage students teaching other students. This can be done simply by stopping it on the server when we see it (correcting it is even better), and adding signs, etc. We should NOT make this a rule though (as I said above, student-to-student teaching CAN be good). Something like "Disclaimer: People with the [Student] rank are STUDENTS, not teachers. They do NOT necessarily know what they are doing. Learn from other students at your own risk."
I feel like a rework of the teacher system is in order. (It's a bit late for me right now, but I may refine some ideas from this thread into a nice list tomorrow).
tl;dr: We teach well, they teach well.