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Smallest alpha adder? - Nickster258 - 04-17-2014
Heyo!
I was playing around the other day and challenged to make a smaller adder than I previously had.
This is what I came up with.
Yep, being 5x4x5 and 100 blocks per bit, it exceeds every 2-wide alpha adder I have seen.
Is there any smaller?!
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - greatgamer34 - 04-17-2014
Wowza
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - PabloDons - 04-17-2014
that's pretty cool that you made it so small, but it is unfortunately not as compact because it is 4 blocks wide which if you made for example an 8 bit adder, it would be huge compared to a 2 wide one. I would say this is insanely good for something small scale though
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Nickster258 - 04-17-2014
(04-17-2014, 02:46 PM)PabloDons Wrote: that's pretty cool that you made it so small, but it is unfortunately not as compact because it is 4 blocks wide which if you made for example an 8 bit adder, it would be huge compared to a 2 wide one. I would say this is insanely good for something small scale though
This is still technically smaller than any 2-wide I have seen. With easy ways to do OR/AND/!A/!B, this is awesome and still smaller than any other.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Dcentrics - 04-17-2014
that thing is fucking huge nick...
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Nickster258 - 04-17-2014
(04-17-2014, 06:27 PM)Dcentrics Wrote: that thing is fucking huge nick...
I would make a joke regarding private parts but I am good.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - RandOMFG - 04-17-2014
I HAZ SMALLUR!
Give me a moment to post pictures and mathsy stuff
Dimensions: 8 * 6 * 2 = 96
-And it's TILEABLE!!!!
NOTE: Paulydboy deserves a lot of credit for designing this together with me.
TRVE ALFA-ADDER(Gallery)
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Nickster258 - 04-17-2014
(04-17-2014, 10:00 PM)RandOMFG Wrote: I HAZ SMALLUR!
Give me a moment to post pictures and mathsy stuff
Dimensions: 8 * 6 * 2 = 96
-And it's TILEABLE!!!!
NOTE: Paulydboy deserves a lot of credit for designing this together with me.
TRVE ALFA-ADDER(Gallery)
But.... ur.... NOT FARE
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - RandOMFG - 04-17-2014
Do you mean...
... "fair"?
*puts on sunglasses*
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - greatgamer34 - 04-18-2014
(04-17-2014, 11:07 PM)Nickster258 Wrote:(04-17-2014, 10:00 PM)RandOMFG Wrote: I HAZ SMALLUR!
Give me a moment to post pictures and mathsy stuff
Dimensions: 8 * 6 * 2 = 96
-And it's TILEABLE!!!!
NOTE: Paulydboy deserves a lot of credit for designing this together with me.
TRVE ALFA-ADDER(Gallery)
But.... ur.... NOT FARE
Life isnt fair, unless, wel.... you go to a fair :p
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Apuly - 04-18-2014
(04-18-2014, 01:37 AM)greatgamer34 Wrote:(04-17-2014, 11:07 PM)Nickster258 Wrote:(04-17-2014, 10:00 PM)RandOMFG Wrote: I HAZ SMALLUR!
Give me a moment to post pictures and mathsy stuff
Dimensions: 8 * 6 * 2 = 96
-And it's TILEABLE!!!!
NOTE: Paulydboy deserves a lot of credit for designing this together with me.
TRVE ALFA-ADDER(Gallery)
But.... ur.... NOT FARE
Life isnt fair, unless, wel.... you go to a fair :p
Well I'm much fair.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - RandOMFG - 04-18-2014
I bet there's a way making an even smaller alpha adder by ignoring tilability and such :o
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Dcentrics - 04-18-2014
RACE TO DA SMALLEST 4DD3R that is 9 bits tilable
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Kernul_Sanders - 04-18-2014
I made both of these adders in beta 1.4_01 and neither of them worked.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Nickster258 - 04-19-2014
(04-18-2014, 10:59 PM)Kernul_Sanders Wrote: I made both of these adders in beta 1.4_01 and neither of them worked.
Then you must of done something wrong. This logic trails all the way back to alpha and hasn't changed since.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - RandOMFG - 04-19-2014
(04-19-2014, 12:32 AM)Nickster258 Wrote:(04-18-2014, 10:59 PM)Kernul_Sanders Wrote: I made both of these adders in beta 1.4_01 and neither of them worked.
Then you must of done something wrong. This logic trails all the way back to alpha and hasn't changed since.
Actually, there have been some changes to the mechanics of basic redstone since alpha. The problem is considering these differences on our 1.5.x server causes a dilemma. Do we want to design a component that is based exactly on the rules in the alpha game or do we want to base it on the tools that were available in the alpha game?
Both me and Nick have aimed for the latter and thus assuring that it is completely functional in the modern game, but based on the spirit of alpha.
One could argue, if the game was to forever stay alpha, never adding any new content to the game, these changes would've happened anyway.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - Kernul_Sanders - 04-19-2014
^ that pretty much sums it up. I can make a video of the derpyness later
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - RandOMFG - 04-19-2014
One example is when you place a torch on top of a block, and then place one piece of dust next to that block, the dust would instantly connect to the block, but wouldn't actually power it when the dust was activated. There were two ways to fix this. Either by placing a block on top of the dust or making the wire longer than one block.
Another change is the wire not connecting to torches on the side of a block anymore. This was to make the dust act more likewise with torches as it would with repeaters.
Yet another change that has been made was after Sethbling made a series where he explained redstone bugs to a Mojang-employee where the redstone torch-burnouts were made more predictable. This isn't a big problem when it comes to logic though.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - henke9600 - 04-21-2014
I made an adder exactly the same size about a year ago
I'm pretty sure there are no smaller 4 wides atleast, not sure about 3, 2 wide etc.
RE: Smallest alpha adder? - boomerangbro10 - 04-26-2014
(04-18-2014, 01:37 AM)greatgamer34 Wrote:(04-17-2014, 11:07 PM)Nickster258 Wrote:(04-17-2014, 10:00 PM)RandOMFG Wrote: I HAZ SMALLUR!
Give me a moment to post pictures and mathsy stuff
Dimensions: 8 * 6 * 2 = 96
-And it's TILEABLE!!!!
NOTE: Paulydboy deserves a lot of credit for designing this together with me.
TRVE ALFA-ADDER(Gallery)
But.... ur.... NOT FARE
Life isnt fair, unless, wel.... you go to a fair :p
Well, what if the fair isn't fair?
...wait what XD